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<ul><li>The CAM print of the upcoming Marvel movie, Avengers: Endgame was spotted on the piracy website, Tamilrockers before its release</li><li>More pirated versions of the movie were also shared on BitTorrent, a P2P file sharing service, after the movie officially launched in China.</li><li>A Russia-based gambling website, 1XBet, has also been spotted sponsoring a cleaner RIP of Avengers: Endgame.</li></ul>The finale to Marvel’s Avengers movie line-up is one of the most awaited movies ever with first day collection from the box office in India pegged to reach ₹500 million — the highest ever for a Hollywood film in the country. But, Avengers: Endgame still couldn’t escape being a victim of piracy and the repercussions are worldwide. Eight moviegoers were <a href="https://hype.my/2019/166966/malaysians-filming-avengers-endgame/">caught</a> in Malaysia for trying to secretly film Avengers: Endgame on their phones. The country’s movie halls are being extremely vigilant to avoid piracy. Officials from the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs were present at the movie hall to remind attendees to not break any rules. Officers were also assigned to carry out spot checks in 21 halls at GSC cinemas in Kuala Lumpur. In case somebody managed to slip past them, there’s a hotline number to report people trying to illegally film the movie. If found guilty, they will be fined up to 100,000 Malaysians Ringgits and face jail time extending to 5 years. Before the film even launched, a CAM print copy of the movie was <a href="https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/hollywood/avengers-endgame-download-tamilrockers-before-release-5692883/">available</a> on Tamilrockers, a piracy website. Once the movie launched in China yesterday, TorrentFreak <a href="https://torrentfreak.com/avengers-endgame-leaks-online-in-china-begins-to-spread-190424/">reported</a> a surge in pirated copies — between 1.2GB to 2GB in size— of the movie being shared on servers in the country. What started as P2P file share on Thunder, a Chinese torrent client, soon spread to English-language torrent networks like BitTorrent. The decision to release Avengers: Endgame early in China was a conscious choice by Marvel Studios to combat the problem of piracy in China <a href="https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/28/avengers-endgame-release-date-china-poster/">according</a> to media reports, which obviously didn’t do the trick. Some American conservatives even support the leak because they don't <a href="https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/avengers-endgame-pirated-online-china-1203196595/" data-type="tilCustomLink" target="_blank">appreciate</a> Disney treating China as a 'premiere priority'. An improved version of the pirated copy and a bigger file size of 3.6GB hit the internet a little later, sponsored by a Russia-based gambling website, 1XBet — it has <a href="https://torrentfreak.com/promo-screeners-of-american-gods-and-other-tv-shows-leak-online-190408/">sponsored</a> pirated promo screeners of TV shows in the past. But, in all the cases, the frame isn’t straight and the audio, despite claiming to be TS — direct audio — is staggered with plenty of background noises in the mix. Even the video itself is a tilted screen. Keeping those factors in mind, it’s unlikely that box office sales will be affected since people who actually want to enjoy the movie will probably want to watch it without spraining their neck. Joe Russo, the direction of Avengers: Endgame, had previously requested fans to not spoil the movie but those efforts have met minimal fruition. 
	
	
	
	
	
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 Keeping pirates movies aside, even Reddit users are undermining that goal by sharing the details of the movie plot on various threads. A video clip filled with spoilers was also <a href="https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/marvel-avengers-endgame-footage-leaks-online-1203190583/">shared</a> across Reddit as well as Twitter last week. See also: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.in/avengers-endgame-already-broke-the-record-for-the-biggest-box-office-opening-in-china-of-all-time/articleshow/69029596.cms">'Avengers: Endgame' already broke the record for the biggest box-office opening in China of all time</a> <a href="https://www.businessinsider.in/The-worlds-biggest-game-is-teaming-up-with-Marvels-Avengers-once-again-in-a-new-event-expected-to-launch-this-week/articleshow/68996008.cms">The world's biggest game is teaming up with Marvel's Avengers once again in a new event expected to launch this week</a>

The most awaited Marvel movie couldn't escape being a victim of piracy

<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">DisneyRobert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark in 2008's "Iron Man" building his first suit.</div></div></div><ul class="summary-list"><li>Warning: Major spoilers below if you have not seen "Avengers: Endgame."</li><li>The hammer-hitting-metal sound following the end credits of "Endgame" is a callback to the movie that launched the Marvel Cinematic Universe, 2008's "Iron Man."</li><li>The idea to use it came from the top: Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige.</li><li>"Kevin came in and said, 'I got an idea, and I want to try it - what if we have a little audio flashback at the end with Tony?'" coeditor Jeffrey Ford told Business Insider.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/?hprecirc-bullet">Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.</a></li></ul>Warning: Major spoilers below if you have not seen "Avengers: Endgame."If you sat through the entire end credits of "Avengers: Endgame," you noticed that unlike all the MCU titles before it, there was not a single scene either during or after the credits rolled. All we got was the sound of a hammer hitting metal as the Marvel Studios logo came on the screen at the very end. But if you're up on your Marvel Cinematic Universe history, you know that the sound was a callback to the first "Iron Man" movie, back in 2008. (That movie was released by Paramount - boy, would movie history be different if that studio held onto Marvel.)Read more: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/avengers-endgame-black-widow-scene-change-2019-5">"Avengers: Endgame" editor reveals how Black Widow's huge scene was dramatically changed</a>At the beginning of the movie, when Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) is captured by a terrorist group called the Ten Rings, he builds an armored suit to escape. It's the prototype for what would become the Iron Man suit.<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">APMarvel Studios president Kevin Feige.</div></div></div>While "Endgame" was in post production, the key creatives knew that there would be no end credit scene in the movie. Then at one point, Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige came to coeditors Jeffrey Ford and Matthew Schmidt with an idea."Towards the end of our mix, Kevin came in and said, 'I got an idea, and I want to try it - what if we have a little audio flashback at the end with Tony?'" <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-the-editing-process-of-avengers-endgame-black-widow-scene-change-2019-5">Ford recalled to Business Insider</a>. "So we dug through the elements of 'Iron Man 1' and found the exact piece of sound from the print master. We laid it in against the logo and adjusted the rhythm slightly. We showed Kevin and he gave it his blessing. We thought this was a great send-off."Read more: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/unused-thor-the-dark-world-footage-was-in-avengers-endgame-2019-5">'Avengers: Endgame' used never-before-seen footage from 'Thor: The Dark World' for a key time-travel sequence, including Natalie Portman's appearance</a> MCU fans have loved the homage. Not only does it praise the movie that led to a multi-billion-dollar movie franchise, but it also works with the movie's <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/avengers-endgame-end-credits-hidden-meaning-behind-mobius-strip-2019-4">Mobius strip</a> time-travel arc in which time (in the MCU world) is on an infinite loop."Avengers: Endgame" is currently playing in theaters. <div class="margin-top"> <h3>NOW WATCH: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-4-details-missed-easter-eggs-2019-5">14 details in 'Game of Thrones' season 8 episode 4 you may have missed</a></h3> <div> </div> </div>

Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige came up with the idea to close 'Avengers: Endgame' with an homage to 'Iron Man'

<ul class="summary-list"><li>"<keyword id="8895349" type="UNKNOWN" weightage="60" keywordseo="the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier">The Falcon and the Winter Soldier</keyword>" introduced Sam Wilson as the new <keyword id="329400" type="ENTERTAINMENT" weightage="60" keywordseo="Captain-America">Captain America</keyword>.</li><li>Costume designer Michael Crow told Insider that <keyword id="132534" type="PERSON" weightage="60" keywordseo="Anthony-Mackie">Anthony Mackie</keyword>, who plays the hero, loved his new look.</li><li>Crow also spoke to Insider about designing costumes for Madripoor and John Walker's Cap look.</li></ul>The <a href="https://www.insider.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-finale-end-credits-explained-2021-4">finale of "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier"</a> introduced Anthony Mackie's Sam Wilson as the new Captain America. And with that, <a href="https://www.insider.com/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-finale-suit-captain-america-2021-4">came a brand new Cap costume.</a>Michael Crow, the costume designer for <a href="https://www.insider.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-marvel-details-references-easter-eggs">"The Falcon and the Winter Soldier,"</a> told Insider that the moment Mackie put on his new look for the first time it was a memorable moment."I really loved putting the costume on Anthony for the first time. I got a real kick out of it," Crow said. "I could see his face light up; like he was excited. I know he was excited."Crow, who also worked in the costume department on a number of <keyword id="47501" type="COMPANY" weightage="60" keywordseo="Marvel">Marvel</keyword> films, including "Captain America: Civil War," "Avengers: Infinity War," and "Avengers: Endgame," said that the concept for the new Captain America costume originated with Ryan Meinderding, who's the head of visual development at Marvel. He also collaborated with Mackie "to create the costume." "I tried to keep some of the costs, some of the ideas and details, the way things are made, from the previous costumes and also from his Falcon costume. It's a sort of a merger of the two," he added, noting that he tried "to take elements from each and create something new was the challenge and the goal."<div type="image" title="Sam Wilson cap costume" height="1200" width="1600" msid="82280179" hostid="261"></div>Wilson's version of Captain America costume is clearly a merger of both Cap and Falcon as Crow intended. The white and red touches make it clear that this new iteration of Cap was born from Falcon and Steve Rogers' star-spangled man. Plus the digitally-added Falcon wings and Captain America shield complete the look. But Mackie's Falcon wasn't the only star-spangled man in the <keyword id="46161" type="CITY" weightage="60" keywordseo="Disney">Disney</keyword> Plus show. Wyatt Russell starred as John Walker, who by the end of the show ends up taking on the mantle of US Agent.At first, however, he is tasked with being the new Captain America. Initially, it didn't go well and the burden of such an important role brought out some of the darker sides of Walker.Crow wanted to reflect that in the character's costume, which he also designed, and told Insider he wanted the character to look harsher, darker, and much more serious than Rogers' Cap ever did."There are a lot more angles in that costume," Crow said, "and also taking away the white certainly helps." Fans also noted that there is a lack of white in Walker's Cap costume, which could signify the lack of purity in his character compared to Rodgers.Crow said that while this specific theory didn't cross his mind during the design, it does make sense and falls into what he wanted to achieve with the costume.<div type="image" title="John Walker 2" height="1200" width="1600" msid="82280181" hostid="261"></div>"We also brightened the red," Crow added, noting it looks like the color of blood. "It's a lot, a lot more violent with the contrast between the blue and the red in his costume versus Chris Evans' Captain America." During the finale episode, viewers also saw one of the more colorful and decadent corners of the Marvel universe in the brand new Madripoor, an area of the <keyword id="412910" type="ORGANIZATION" weightage="60" keywordseo="MCU">MCU</keyword> we had never seen before.In the show, Daniel Brühl's Baron Zemo took Sam and Bucky (Sebastian Stan) to Madripoor to help stop the Flag Smashers. It's here that they encounter a wide variety of disreputable figures in this criminal sanctuary (think the alien space bar from "A New Hope," but in the MCU) and everyone present seems larger than life.<div type="image" title="Madripoor" height="1200" width="1600" msid="82280183" hostid="261"></div>Crow wanted to ensure Madripoor felt like a vibrant mix of cultures and backgrounds, which is evident from the fabric choices - from furs to African-inspired prints."We took inspiration from all over the world. We wanted Madripoor to feel very international," Crow said."So for low town we took inspiration from different gangs and mafia ... from around the world - from Eastern Europe, from Scandinavia, from Africa, from South America. And then we put them all in one pot so that it didn't feel like any one place in particular."Mackie reprises his role as Captain America in the <a href="https://www.insider.com/captain-america-4-in-development-report-tfatws-writers-2021-4">upcoming "Captain America 4" movie</a>, which is being written by "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" showrunner Malcolm Spellman. He'll write the script with Dalan Musson, a staff writer on the Disney Plus show.While the movie will follow Wilson in his first solo outing as Captain America, we know little else about the project. There have been no casting announcements as of yet, nor is a director attached.Evans has been rumored to return to the MCU, but there are also rumors that <a href="https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/captain-america-4-is-reportedly-separate-from-the-rumored-chris-evans-return/">his return will be separate to this fourth Cap movie</a>. As usual, Marvel has remained tight-lipped.

'The Falcon and the Winter Soldier' costume designer said he saw Anthony Mackie 'light up' when he put on the Captain America costume for the first time

<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">NetflixSandra Bullock in "Bird Box"</div></div></div><ul class="summary-list"><li>Stephen King praised Netflix's new thriller, "Bird Box," on Thursday, and said he was "riveted" by the movie.</li><li>He also called out critics for having what he called "Netflix Prejudice," as the movie has a 63% Rotten Tomatoes critic score. </li><li>Critics have given positive reviews to other Netflix movies this year, including "Cam," "Roma," and "Private Life."</li></ul> Stephen King praised Netflix's latest thriller, "Bird Box," on Thursday, but he had less kind things to say about critics reviewing the movie. King <a href="https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1075845187124019200" target="_blank" rel="noopener">tweeted</a>, "I was absolutely riveted by BIRD BOX (Netflix). Don't believe the lukewarm reviews, which may in part have been caused by reviewers' ambivalence to the streaming platform, as opposed to theatrical releases."He added, "One might say movie reviewers suffer from the dread NP syndrome: Netflix Prejudice."READ MORE: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-king-loved-cam-movie-on-netflix-blumhouses-new-thriller-2018-11" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stephen King loved Netflix's new psychological thriller, 'Cam,' from Hollywood's hottest horror studio</a>"Bird Box," which is available to stream on Friday, stars Sandra Bullock as a mother trying to protect her two children in the aftermath of a deadly force wiping out much of society. The catch: If you see it, you die. King has praised other Netflix shows and movies this year, such as the hit horror series, "The Haunting of Hill House," which <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-king-loves-netflix-horror-series-the-haunting-of-hill-house-2018-10" target="_blank" rel="noopener">he called "close to a work of genius,"</a> and <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-king-loved-cam-movie-on-netflix-blumhouses-new-thriller-2018-11" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Blumhouse's psychological thriller movie, "Cam,"</a> which has a 93% Rotten Tomatoes critic score. "Bird Box" has a less impressive 63% critic score on Rotten Tomatoes, but besides "Cam," critics have been generous to other Netflix movies this year, as well. Alfonso Cuarón's Oscar hopeful "Roma" is one of the best reviewed films of the year with a 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. "The Kindergarten Teacher" and "Private Life" have 89% and 94%, respectively.As it seeks to compete during awards season, Netflix <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-roma-strategy-proves-it-needs-to-learn-theater-business-2018-11" target="_blank" rel="noopener">gave an exclusive theatrical run to "Bird Box," "Roma," and the Coen Brothers' "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs"</a> earlier this year before they became available to stream. It was a rare move for Netflix, as the company's original film strategy is usually "day and date," meaning the movies become available to stream on the same day they are released to theaters. <div class="margin-top"> <h3>NOW WATCH: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/avengers-endgame-trailer-breakdown-easter-eggs-hidden-details-2018-12">Hidden meanings in the 'Avengers: Endgame' trailer</a></h3> <div> </div> </div>

Stephen King was 'riveted' by Netflix's new thriller, 'Bird Box,' and slammed critics for suffering from 'Netflix Prejudice'

<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">Reuters/Suhaib SalemPalestinian beekeepers use a smoker to calm bees in the process of collecting honey at a farm in Gaza City.</div></div></div>Here is what you need to know. <ol><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/avengers-endgame-has-a-record-breaking-350-million-opening-weekend-2019-4">Avengers makes history</a>. Disney's blockbuster hit "Avengers: Endgame" brought in $350 million in its first weekend at the US box office, and $1.2 billion worldwide, making it the biggest opening in movie history.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-sec-reach-settlement-agreement-tesla-ceo-social-media-use-2019-4">Elon Musk settles with the SEC</a>. Tesla's CEO and the Securities and Exchange Commission have reached an agreement that says all of Musk's communication through social media, the company's website, press releases, and investor calls must be preapproved by an "experienced securities lawyer."</li><li><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/amazon-freight-disrupts-uber-billion-dollar-trucking-industry-2019-4-1028147655">Amazon is going after the shipping industry</a>. The e-commerce giant has launched a trial version of its online-freight-broker platform, and is undercutting prices by more than 25%, according to the industry news site FreightWaves.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-737-max-airlines-groundings-millions-from-profits-2019-4">The grounding of Boeing's 737 Max will cost airlines hundreds of millions of dollars</a>. Airlines around the world are warning that the grounding of the 737 Max aircraft will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars and analysts say they'll all want different forms of compensation from Boeing. </li><li><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lyft-stock-price-everything-we-know-about-first-month-trading-2019-4-1028145833">Lyft had a brutal first month as a publicly traded company</a>. Shares of the ride-hailing company plunged 35% from their opening print on the $87.24 - here's everything we know since the company's stock-market debut.</li><li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/next-stock-market-crash-worry-near-50-year-high-1987-parallels-2019-4">Investors are growing more concerned about a stock-market crash</a>. The so-called worry gauge currently sits in its top quintile, and is flashing some eerie parallels to the 1987 crash. </li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48081540">The socialists win in Spain</a>. The Spanish Socialist Workers' Party took 29% of the vote and will need to get support from other parties in order to form a government, the BBC says. </li><li><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/indices">Stock markets around the world were lower</a>. China's Shanghai Composite (-0.77%) led the losses in Asia and France's CAC (-0.38%) trailed in Europe. The S&amp;P 500 was set to open little changed near 2,940.</li><li><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/earnings-calendar">Earnings season rolls on</a>. Restaurant Brands and Spotify report ahead of the opening bell while MGM Resorts, Texas Roadhouse, and Yum China release their quarterly results after markets close.</li><li><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/economic-calendar#date=04/29/2019&amp;name=&amp;countries=us&amp;eventtypes=&amp;tab=1,2,3">US economic data keeps coming</a>. Personal income and spending will be released at 8:30 a.m. ET and Dallas Fed manufacturing will cross the wires at 10:30 a.m. ET. The US 10-year yield was up 1 basis point at 2.51%.</li></ol> <div class="margin-top"> <h3>NOW WATCH: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/reporter-calls-out-claim-that-fbi-was-happy-comeys-firing-sarah-huckabee-sanders-white-house-press-briefing-2017-5">This video shows the moment Sarah Sanders lied to a room full of reporters about FBI agents telling her they were happy Trump fired Comey</a></h3> <div> </div> </div>

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<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">Provided by Gerry ConwayConway</div></div></div><ul class="summary-list"><li>Comics writer Gerry Conway wrote Carol Danvers' (Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel) debut solo comic in 1977, and co-created The Punisher and more Marvel and DC characters.</li><li>With "Captain Marvel" now in theaters, Conway spoke to Business Insider about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and what he's excited about in its future.</li><li>He also talked about the "grim" state of the comics industry today, and how he feels about Netflix canceling its "Punisher" TV series.</li></ul>Comics writer Gerry Conway is responsible for some of the most popular characters and moments in comics history.He co-created Marvel's anti-hero Punisher with artists John Romita Sr. and Ross Andru, and wrote the famous storyline "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" in "Amazing Spider-Man" issue 122 in 1973.Four years after Conway killed off Spider-Man's most popular lover (aside from Mary Jane Watson, of course), he wrote the debut issue of "Ms. Marvel" in 1977. The character's real identity, Carol Danvers, had already appeared in another comic as a supporting character to Captain Marvel, but under Conway's pen, she became Ms. Marvel and starred in her own solo comic.READ MORE: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-movies-after-2019-details-release-dates-2019-3" data-analytics-position="18">There are 6 Marvel movies in the works for after 'Avengers: Endgame' - here are all the details</a>Over four decades later, "Captain Marvel" is rocketing toward $1 billion at the worldwide box office. The movie is more closely inspired by writer Kelly Sue DeConnick's interpretation of the character, when she finally took the name Captain Marvel in 2012. But as Conway, 66, told Business Insider, he's a "grandparent" to the movie.The Punisher has also been featured on both the small and big screens. Most recently, he starred in a Netflix original series, "The Punisher," that <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-cancels-marvel-tv-shows-the-punisher-and-jessica-jones-2019-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the streaming giant canceled earlier this year</a> after two seasons.Conway spoke with Business Insider about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, his career, and Netflix's "Punisher" series.He also talked about the "grim" state of the comics industry, which he said is supported by a "fundamentally unsound business model."(This interview has been edited for length and clarity.)Travis Clark: Where do you think the MCU can go after "Endgame" and what are you most excited about?Gerry Conway: I should state from the top I have no inside information, so this is all based on my insights as a pro and as a fan. But one of the things Marvel has done that's so smart is that they treat all of their films as not a member of the comic-book genre, but as a genre film within other genres. "Ant-Man" is a comedy heist film. "Winter Soldier" is a political thriller. Once you recognize that you have that opportunity, I could see a rom-com Marvel movie. We're definitely going to see a martial arts Marvel movie with "Shang-Chi." I'm sure there will be more political dramas with Black Panther. Clark: "Black Widow" will probably be a spy thriller.Conway: Right, and there are genres they haven't even tapped into yet. It's very smart. What they did is they separated themselves early from the idea of the superhero genre, and they've always recognized that that's a limited field in which you can operate, so they've basically created an excuse to do all of these movies. You could even say that one of the brilliant things about "Captain Marvel" is that it's like an independent, women's self-realization film, which is an entire genre, right? That's what all of these films do. If you want to watch a superhero movie, you're watching a superhero movie. But for those who don't, they're not bored.<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">Disney"Captain Marvel"</div></div></div>Clark: And it kind of helps with the connected universe, because you don't necessarily have to watch one to know what's going on in another. Conway: Right, but anyone who hasn't seen a Marvel movie by now should not go see <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/avengers-endgame-opening-box-office-could-beat-infinity-war-2019-3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">"Endgame."</a> [laughs] My in-laws were asking last year if they should see "Infinity War," and I asked, "Have you seen any Marvel movies?" They said "no," and I said: "Don't see this movie. There's no way you'll enjoy it."Clark: What are you thoughts on the surplus of superhero movies today? There's not just the MCU. Do you think audiences could succumb to "superhero fatigue"?Conway: Well, for one thing, <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/major-film-franchises-that-disney-will-own-after-fox-deal-2018-7" target="_blank" rel="noopener">we can eliminate Fox as a competing player in the superhero genre</a>. Any movies that are going to come out featuring the characters Fox owned will probably be through the MCU. At least from what I understand, very smartly, [Marvel Studios president] Kevin Feige is slowing down. We've had three Marvel movies the past couple years, and next year we'll have two. And even if that's only for a year, you're giving the audience a breather and building up anticipation for the next one. READ MORE: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-revamp-of-fantastic-four-in-marvel-cinematic-universe-analysis-2019-3" data-analytics-position="14">After several 'Fantastic Four' flops, Disney should use its upcoming Netflix competitor to revamp the franchise</a>Clark: As I understand it, you wrote Carol Danvers' debut comic.Conway: That's correct.Clark: Seeing that character now in her own movie, heading toward $1 billion at the box office...Conway: Yeah, it's pretty amazing.Clark: Back in the '70s, you probably weren't thinking about box office or whether you'd see her in a movie. It was before even the first "Superman" movie. So is this something you ever thought you'd experience?Conway: No. But to clarify, I didn't create Carol Danvers, I came up with the Ms. Marvel name. She had been a supporting character. What I did is I gave her Kree powers and the memory loss.Clark: That's sort of the basis for the movie.<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table float_right"><div><div class="image on-image">Marvel Comics"Mrs. Marvel" issue 1 from 1977, written by Gerry Conway.</div></div></div>Conway: In a general sense. It's the inspirational spark, but the Captain Marvel character we see in the film is really Kelly Sue DeConnick's creation. I was a grandparent to it, lets put it that way. [laughs]But to answer your question about what we were thinking back in the '70s, we were actually wondering if the comics industry would even be around by the '80s [laughs].Clark: Was there a lot of anxiety back then about the state of the industry?Conway: Oh yeah, by the mid-'70s we were seriously wondering whether we'd be around at all. Sales were collapsing. When I first started working in the comic business in the late '60s, "Superman" was selling a million copies a month. By 1975, it was down to probably 400,000. That's a big drop. The price was going up because the cost of printing had gone up, but the amount of income coming in per book was dropping dramatically. Advertising revenue was down. We knew it was the baby-boomer generation that made comics sell in the '60s, and as that generation was aging out, we really didn't see a future.Clark: What changed that?Conway: Phil Seuling, who was the owner of a comic-book store in New York City, came up with the idea of a direct sale market. The way that distribution had worked was by selling books to the newsstand, and the newsstand distributors had the right to return what they didn't sell. You'd end up in a bad situation where you're printing twice as many books as you're going to sell, so your printing costs are ridiculous. What Seuling offered was a no-return sale. He got together a group of comic stores and said to the publishers, "We'll order 1,000 copies of your books but we want them at a discount." It started out as a small portion of the market, but it eventually became the market. Clark: And that's why pre-orders are so important for retailers, because they have to know how many comics they need to order because they can't return any.Conway: Right, and retailers are getting up in arms now because publishers are offering deals that are non-negotiable where they're told, "You have to buy this number of these books before you can get this book that you know you want." So they're being forced to buy books that they know they can't sell that they basically have to eat the sales on. A lot of retailers are struggling and going out of business, and if you lose that market, you have nothing if you're a comic-book publisher. There is no alternative market yet. <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-comixology-could-revitalize-comic-books-creators-say-2018-11" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Comixology</a> has some presence in the sales rankings, but not much.READ MORE: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-comixology-could-revitalize-comic-books-creators-say-2018-11" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Amazon's Comixology has provoked a fierce debate in the comic-book world, but creators say it could help revitalize the industry</a>Clark: I was going to ask what your thoughts were on the comic industry today ...Conway: It's pretty grim. There's going to have to be something that happens that's comparable to what happened in the '70s with the direct-sale market. That resulted in a redefinition of the distribution methodology and the market that you're aiming the books at. Both of those changes came hand-in-hand and resulted in a dramatic difference. What we've seen over the last couple decades is an increasing reliance on cheap tricks for profits to support a fundamentally unsound business model.There may be 50,000 comic-book readers in the country. That's my estimate based on what we see are the best-selling books. The best-selling books barely break 100,000 these days. You end up with a business that is basically trying to take as much money from 50,000 readers as you can by offering multiple variant covers of books so they get people to buy the same books five times, and constant reboots so people are forced to start their collections over. It's totally unsustainable. Instead of broadening your audience, you are basically defining your audience down to the most desperately fanatical people that will take anything you do. To reach those people, you have to do stuff that's more and more narrow focused to their interests, which has been the problem with the direct-sale market from the start. You abandoned the newsstand readership that was a broad readership for a specific audience. Within that audience, you're narrowing it even further on fans who are willing to spend four bucks on 20 pages of entertainment.Clark: It's an expensive hobby.Conway: It's a very expensive hobby. It's an addiction for people who do it, they can't break the hobby. But you're not going to get anyone new because the bar for entry into that market is so high now. My daughter is a big fan of superheroes. She's 22 years old. She doesn't read superhero comics. She watches the movies, she reads up on the stuff, she's interested and wants to know more. But she doesn't read the comics because there's no way for her to get into it. She can't afford it.<div class="KonaFilter image-container display-table"><div><div class="image on-image">Netflix"Daredevil" season 2</div></div></div>Clark: So the last major comic you wrote was "Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows" a few years ago. Is that just because you're retired or just not into it anymore?Conway: I love comics and I would love to write regularly but the truth is I'm really too slow for them these days. I took myself out of that. I used to write a lot and when I was working as a comic-book writer primarily, it was churn. Get the pages out, get the next script done, and I wasn't able to focus on writing as well as I wanted to. As I've gotten older and take more pride in my work, that had a paralyzing effect on my ability to churn stuff out. I left "Renew Your Vows," for example, for a couple of reasons. One, [Marvel] wanted to take the book in a direction I didn't particularly want to go. Even moreso, I was finding the monthly pressure of churning out a book zapping my enjoyment of doing the work. So I didn't want to do it, and I don't have to do it. It's not like I'm in my 30s [laughs].READ MORE: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/will-marvel-netflix-tv-shows-be-saved-by-disney-daredevil-punisher-2019-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Netflix's Marvel TV universe is dead, and it's unlikely the shows will be saved by Disney</a>Clark: So what happened with "Renew Your Vows"?Conway: They wanted to go in a different direction, and I was okay with that. They changed it from being a book about raising a small child to raising a teenager.Clark: I really wanted to touch on the Netflix Marvel shows since you co-created the Punisher. Did you like the direction they were taking the character and were you hoping to see more?Conway: I did like what [Netflix and Marvel Studios] did with it. I like the show. My preferred version of the character on Netflix was the "Daredevil" [season 2] appearances, just because he's best when he's not the primary character, but more of like an antagonist. But I honestly think they did a terrific job. I was looking forward to a third season, but it looks like that will never happen at this point and I'm disappointed. Gerry Conway will appear next at the Comicpalooza in Houston, Texas in May. <div class="margin-top"> <h3>NOW WATCH: <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-most-memorable-moments-jon-snow-cersei-daenerys-hbo-2019-3">The 14 most iconic scenes from 'Game of Thrones'</a></h3> <div> </div> </div>

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