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Billionaire investor Howard Marks says 'artificially supported' markets will fall when the Fed's aid slows

May 18, 2020, 22:01 IST
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CNBC's Scott Wapner interviews Howard Marks, Oaktree Capital Co-Chairman, at the CNBC Institutional Investor Delivering Alpha conference July 18th in NYC.Heidi Gutman/CNBC/NBCU Photo Bank/NBCUniversal/Getty Images
  • The Federal Reserve's move into corporate debt markets creates a looming market threat once the bank unwinds its relief efforts, Oaktree Capital co-founder Howard Marks said Monday.
  • Risk assets' current prices are "artificially supported by Fed buying," the billionaire investor told Bloomberg TV, adding buyers are unlikely to step in at current levels once the Fed retreats.
  • Marks is already positioning his firm to capitalize on a wave of defaults. Oaktree plans to raise $15 billion for the biggest distressed-debt fund in history, repeating a strategy it used during the financial crisis.
  • Several companies including JCPenney and Neiman Marcus have already filed for bankruptcy, and Marks sees plenty more joining the fray as government relief fails to save heavily indebted firms.
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The stock and bond markets' rally on Federal Reserve aid will backfire once the economy turns around and the central bank pulls back, Oaktree Capital co-chairman Howard Marks said Monday.

April's market rally was largely fueled by the Fed's announcement that it would begin buying corporate debt. Investors followed the central bank into extraordinarily risky bonds, betting on the relief lending to keep struggling companies solvent. Stocks enjoyed a similar upswing as confidence grew and capital returned to the market.

The resulting prices are "artificially supported by Fed buying" and unlikely to hold strong in the absence of widespread fiscal policy, the distressed-debt investor told Bloomberg TV.

"Those of us in the markets believe that stocks and bonds are selling at prices they wouldn't sell at if the Fed were not the dominant force," Marks said. "So if the Fed were to recede, we would all take over as buyers, but I don't think at these levels."

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Marks has already positioned himself to swoop in once companies slide into default. Oaktree plans to raise $15 billion for the biggest distressed-debt fund in history as credit ratings plunge and borrowing costs loom. The firm employed a similar strategy in the wake of the financial crisis.

"The firewood had been stacked" by massive debt sales and the pandemic sparked the flames, Oaktree said in an investor presentation seen by Bloomberg.

Several firms have fallen under even before the Fed pulls back on emergency lending. Neiman Marcus, J. Crew, and JCPenney all entered bankruptcy in recent weeks as consumer spending plummets to historically weak levels. Marks sees plenty more companies joining the retailers as relief funding fails to overcome lofty debt costs.

"There are large, highly levered companies and investment vehicles that the government and Fed rescue program is not likely to reach and take care of," he said.

Marks still doesn't view the Fed's actions as unnecessary. Markets will face heightened turbulence when the central bank unwinds its bond purchases, but the turmoil pales in comparison to what would happen without the Fed's lending.

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"Just because something has unforeseeable negative consequences, that doesn't mean it was a mistake," Marks said.

"Kids like candy, and investors like low rates, but we have to have discipline also," he added.

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