Tucker Carlson says his interview with Rep. Matt Gaetz about the DOJ's investigation into the lawmaker was 'one of the weirdest interviews I've ever conducted'
- Matt Gaetz went on "Tucker Carlson Tonight" to discuss a DOJ sex-trafficking inquiry involving him.
- Gaetz said the inquiry was based on a "horrible allegation" and a "lie" that's "verifiably false."
- Carlson called it one of his "weirdest" interviews, adding, "I don't think that clarified much."
Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida appeared on Fox News' prime-time show "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Tuesday evening to address an ongoing Department of Justice investigation into whether Gaetz engaged in a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and broke federal sex-trafficking laws.
Carlson struggled to make sense of his discussion with Gaetz, saying afterward, "You just saw our Matt Gaetz interview, that was one of the weirdest interviews I've ever conducted."
"That story just appeared in the news a couple of hours ago, and on the certainty that there's always more than you read in the newspaper we immediately called Matt Gaetz and asked him to come on and tell us more, which, as you saw, he did," Carlson added. "I don't think that clarified much, but it certainly showed this is a deeply interesting story, and we'll be following it. Don't quite understand it. But we'll bring you more when we find out."
The New York Times first reported on the DOJ's investigation, and Gaetz confirmed its existence to The Times and the news website Axios. In a series of tweets, Gaetz contended that the investigation was part of an "organized criminal extortion" scheme against him by a former DOJ employee, and he called the Times story "a planted leak."
Here's what Gaetz said on Carlson's show:
- "It is a horrible allegation, and it is a lie," and it is "verifiably false," Gaetz said. "People can look at my travel records and see that that is not the case."
- Gaetz accused David McGee, who is now a lawyer at the firm Beggs & Lane, of being the ex-DOJ employee behind the purported scheme. McGee told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that Gaetz's allegation was "completely, totally false" and "a blatant attempt to distract from the fact that Matt Gaetz is apparently about to be indicted for sex trafficking underage girls."
- Gaetz said McGee texted his father on March 16 "demanding a meeting wherein a person demanded $25 million in exchange for making horrible sex-trafficking allegations against me go away."
- He said that his family was "so troubled" by the demand that they contacted their local FBI field office and that the DOJ and the FBI were "so concerned about this attempted extortion of a member of Congress that they asked my dad to wear a wire, which he did with the former Department of Justice official."
- Gaetz reiterated his demand that the department release what he said were audio recordings that were made "under their supervision and at their direction" and would "prove my innocence" and show the allegations against him were "merely intended to try to bleed my family out of money."
It's unclear whether March 16 was the first time Gaetz or his family members were contacted as part of the scheme he described. If it was, that would make it unlikely that the DOJ's inquiry was itself part of the scheme, because the department's sex-trafficking investigation was launched late last summer and had been well underway by March 16. Insider contacted a representative of Gaetz for clarification on the timeline but did not immediately get a response.
The Times reported that the DOJ's inquiry into Gaetz is focusing on two encounters he's suspected of having with the 17-year-old in 2019.
During his appearance on Carlson's show, Gaetz said the FBI had "threatened" a "friend" he brought to dinner with Carlson and his wife two years ago.
"I can say that actually, you and I went to dinner about two years ago, your wife was there, and I brought a friend of mine, you'll remember her, and she was actually threatened by the FBI, told that if she wouldn't cop to the fact that somehow, I was involved in some pay-for-play scheme, that she could face trouble," Gaetz said.
He continued: "And so, I do believe that there are people at the Department of Justice who are trying to smear me. Providing for flights and hotel rooms for people that you're dating who are of legal age is not a crime, and I'm just troubled that the lack of any sort of legitimate investigation into me would then permute, would then convert into this extortion attempt."
Carlson replied: "I don't remember the woman you're speaking of or the context at all, honestly."