- Trump spoke about his presidency to a group of historians on a Zoom call in July.
- He said he "didn't win the election" twice in the interview before saying it was "rigged and lost."
Trump indicated that he "lost" the
Trump's election-related comments began with a story of how he pressured the South Korean government, which hosts tens of thousands of US military personnel, to cover more of the costs of its defense.
"I said, what we'll do is we'll pay approximately $1.2 billion," Trump told the group of historians, according to the video, which The Atlantic published on Monday. He added: "And then, for next year, you'll pay $5 billion a year."
"'No, no, no,'" Trump said, impersonating South Korean President Moon Jae-In. "I said, 'Yes, you will.' And we just about had an agreement — and then the election came."
Trump went on to say twice that he did not win the 2020 president election — despite his frequent, false claims to the contrary.
"By not winning the election, he was the happiest man — I would say, in order, China was — no, Iran was the happiest," Trump said. "He was going to pay $5 billion, $5 billion a year. But when I didn't win the election, he had to be the happiest — I would rate, probably, South Korea third or fourth happiest."
After a brief digression during which Trump mentioned Europe's now canceled Nord Stream 2 pipeline, he again referred to the 2020 election, this time adding that it was "rigged."
"So we had a deal, would have happened, all set," he said. "And then when the election was rigged and lost, what happened is that the deal went away."
Trump has consistently asserted, without evidence, that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him, beginning when he said in the early morning of November 4, 2020: "Frankly, we did win this election."
Trump's refusal to accept defeat prompted the "
He has maintained since then that the 2020 election was illegitimate, saying the "real insurrection" happened on November 3, 2020, rather than on
Trump for months has openly flirted with the idea of running for president again in 2024, though he has not declared himself a candidate.