Trump called Pence 'the P-word' and a 'wimp' during a call before the Jan. 6 attack, according to testimony from White House aides

• Trump had a "heated," profanity-laden phone call with Vice President Pence on the morning of Jan. 6.
• White House aides told the Jan. 6 panel that Trump called Pence a "wimp" and "the P-word."

Former White House aides testified to the January 6 committee that former President Donald Trump made a profanity-laden call to then-Vice President Mike Pence on the morning of January 6, 2021.

"The conversation was ... was pretty heated," Trump's eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, told the committee, according to video testimony first released on Thursday. "It was a different tone than I'd heard him take with the vice president before."

Other aides went into further detail about Trump's comments on the call.

"I remember hearing the word 'wimp'. Either he called him a wimp — I don't remember if he said, 'you are a wimp, you'll be a wimp' — wimp is the word I remember," said Nicholas Luna, a former assistant to Trump.

Eric Hershmann, a former Trump campaign lawyer, told the committee that Ivanka Trump was "uncomfortable over the fact that there was obviously that type of interaction between the two of them," referring to the president and vice president.

And Julie Radford, who served as Ivanka's chief of staff, told the committee that Ivanka told her that the president "just had an upsetting conversation with the Vice President" in which he called Pence "the P-word."

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Thursday's hearing focused primarily on Trump's efforts to pressure Pence into overturning the 2020 election results. Retired conservative Judge Michael Luttig testified that doing such a thing would've pushed the country into "the first constitutional crisis since the founding of the republic."