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E. Jean Carroll lawyer claims Trump once called her a coded version of the C-word after a deposition

Feb 3, 2024, 22:33 IST
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Roberta Kaplan (L), Donald Trump (R).Phillip Faraone/Getty Images for Fortune, David Becker/Getty Images
  • Lawyer Roberta Kaplan said Trump once used a coded version of the C-word profanity against her.
  • She said Trump said "See you next Tuesday," despite them not being scheduled to meet that day.
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A lawyer who represented writer E. Jean Carroll against Donald Trump claimed that the former president once used a coded version of the C-word profanity against her.

Kaplan's allegation is the latest accusation of Trump's use of misogynistic language toward women.

Roberta Kaplan said that the incident occurred at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort at the end of a deposition for an unrelated case before she went on to help Carroll win $86.3 million in damages.

Kaplan said on an episode of "George Conway Explains it All (to Sarah Longwell)" podcast that Trump's attorneys made sure that they were off the record before he said: "See you next Tuesday."

The phrase is commonly known as a euphemism for a derogatory four-letter word referring to female genitalia.

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Kaplan told Conway that she initially didn't understand what Trump meant because they were not scheduled to meet the following Tuesday.

"I, thank God, had no idea what that meant, so I said to him, 'What are you talking about? I'm coming back on Wednesday,'" Kaplan said. "Literally, it was an honest answer. I had no idea what he's talking about."

A representative for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider, which was made outside regular working hours.

'He talks about women in the most demeaning of ways'

Donald Trump and Megyn Kelly.AP Photo/John Minchillo, File

This matters as Trump has long faced accusations that he speaks about women in a derogatory and sexist way, ranging from his notorious "grab 'em by the pussy" comment to other demeaning remarks about women made in public and reportedly in private.

One of his most egregious remarks was about Fox News host Megyn Kelly, who he said had "blood coming out of her wherever" at a Republican presidential debate in 2015.

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During the debate, Kelly had pressed Trump about misogynistic, sexist comments he made in the past, such as calling some women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals."

Debbie Walsh, director of the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutger's University, previously told the BBC that Trump's insulting language about high-profile women is part of a pattern.

"The kind of things that he said about Hillary Clinton, Carly Fiorina, Elizabeth Warren, Heidi Cruz — the list goes on — he talks about women, any prominent, powerful woman, in the most demeaning of ways, trivializing them."

Of course, Trump is known to attack all of his rivals and perceived enemies viciously, regardless of gender, but his language toward women is often distinct.

Professor Marianne LaFrance, a psychologist at Yale University, previously told the BBC that Trump often uses gendered language when insulting women — such as by referring to diplomat Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to Ukraine, not by name, but as "the woman."

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In the same podcast episode, Kaplan revealed that Trump "yelled" at his attorney Alina Habba, and threw documents "across the table" in fury after finding out Kaplan and her team had been offered lunch at Mar-a-Lago.

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