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Jeffrey Epstein said Bill Clinton 'likes them young,' accuser testified in newly unsealed deposition

Jan 4, 2024, 10:09 IST
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Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein.Ira L. Black/Corbis via Getty Images, Stephanie Keith/Getty Images
  • Jeffrey Epstein said Bill Clinton likes girls "young," according to a newly unsealed deposition.
  • Johanna Sjoberg, a victim of Epstein, gave the deposition for a civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Jeffrey Epstein told one of his victims that Bill Clinton likes girls "young," according to a newly unsealed deposition.

Records related to the Epstein accuser, Johanna Sjoberg, were made public Wednesday night as part of a batch of newly unsealed court documents related to the dead pedophile's sex-trafficking partner Ghislaine Maxwell.

In a newly unsealed deposition, Sjoberg was asked whether Epstein ever talked to her about Clinton.

"He said one time that Clinton likes them young, referring to girls," Sjoberg answered.

The deposition was taken on May 18, 2016, by a lawyer for Virginia Giuffre, who brought a civil lawsuit against Maxwell. Giuffre alleged that Maxwell defamed her when she denied her claims that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her for sex.

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Giuffre, as part of her claims, alleged that she had sex with Epstein's friend Prince Andrew. Sjoberg, in her deposition, corroborated details of Giuffre's story and said Prince Andrew fondled her as well. Sjoberg said in her deposition that Maxwell had a puppet that resembled Prince Andrew, and that Prince Andrew used the puppet to fondle Giuffre.

"Apparently it was a production from a show on BBC. And they decided to take a picture with it, in which Virginia and Andrew sat on a couch," Sjoberg testified in a deposition. "They put the puppet on Virginia's lap, and I sat on Andrew's lap, and they put the puppet's hand on Virginia's breast, and Andrew put his hand on my breast, and they took a photo."

Prince Andrew has denied wrongdoing. The British royal settled a separate civil lawsuit brought by Giuffre in 2022.

Clinton has previously said he regrets his association with Epstein, who visited the White House numerous times during his presidential administration and has denied any knowledge of Epstein's crimes. The former president hasn't been accused of any wrongdoing related to the Epstein case.

In an email to Business Insider, Angel Ureña, a spokesperson for Clinton, reiterated his statement in 2019, stating that Clinton knew "nothing about the terrible crimes" Epstein committed.

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"In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane, Ureña wrote.

"It's been nearly 20 years since President Clinton last had contact with Epstein," Ureña told BI.

Sigrid McCawley, an attorney for Giuffre — who deposed Sjoberg in 2016 — said in a statement Wednesday that the unsealed documents would shed light on "how Epstein operated his vast, global sex trafficking enterprise and got away with it for decades."

"The public interest must still be served in learning more about the scale and scope of Epstein's racket to further the important goal of shutting down sex trafficking wherever it exists and holding more to account," she said. "The unsealing of these documents gets us closer to that goal."

Sjoberg testified in the deposition that she knew Epstein "had dealings" with Clinton, but that she "did not know they were friends " until she read a Vanity Fair article that said they took a trip to Africa together.

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In the deposition, Sjoberg also testified she doesn't recall seeing Clinton on Epstein's private island in the US Virgin Islands, contradicting a Daily Mail report claiming that he visited it.

Portions of Sjoberg's deposition were previously made public in earlier stages of the litigation between Giuffre and Maxwell. The full document became public Wednesday night.

Sjoberg is one of the approximately 170 associates of Epstein whose names were ordered to be unsealed this month. The list of formerly anonymous "Does" includes some of Epstein's powerful friends, like Clinton, as well as victims, like Sjoberg.

Maxwell and Giuffre settled their lawsuit in 2017. In 2021, a jury found Maxwell guilty of trafficking girls to Epstein for sex and sexually abusing them herself. She's serving a 20-year prison sentence. Epstein himself died in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial for his own set of sex-trafficking charges.

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