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A crypto exec shares details of his phone calls with Sam Bankman-Fried days before FTX imploded

Nov 21, 2022, 17:53 IST
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Good morning to my favorite corner of the internet. Senior reporter Phil Rosen here. It's good to see you.

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Today, we're zooming in on the revealing calls that took place just before the fall of FTX, between Sam Bankman-Fried and a rival exec.

I caught up with that exec to hear about Bankman-Fried's eleventh-hour scramble for a billion-dollar deal.

But before we get to that: Between the crypto, Twitter, and Taylor Swift headlines, it's easy to forget there are other things happening, too. Here's what else to bring to your water cooler chat today:

Now, shall we?

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1. Sam Bankman-Fried, the recently dethroned king of crypto, had been making a lot of calls seeking a lifeline before his firm crumbled.

Days before FTX filed for bankruptcy, he was reaching out to competitors, including Lennix Lai, the director of financial markets at OKX, one the largest crypto exchanges in the world.

Over the weekend, I sat down with Lai, who had a working relationship with Bankman-Fried and recently spoke to him.

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Ahead of FTX's November 11 bankruptcy filing, Bankman-Fried reached out to Lai late at night in Southeast Asia on November 8.

"The very first call that we received from Sam he said everything's under control, but they might need cash, one to two billion dollars max in short-term credit, in exchange for FTT value or equity in FTX," Lai told me.

He didn't reject the request, and said he was willing to help but just needed to mull it over with his team at OKX first.

Bankman-Fried, Lai added, sounded calm and admitted the liquidity crunch was his own fault.

Then, hours later, Bankman-Fried called again with much more anxiety in his voice.

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"He mentioned they were in a very critical situation, and only got a few hours," Lai said. "We didn't know what that meant. Also, they were talking about a lot more billions [of dollars], so that was difficult for us."

Lai encouraged Bankman-Fried to reach out to Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao, because he could help stabilize FTX's native token, FTT, which Lai saw as one of the key issues.

But even on that second call, Lai didn't explicitly say no to Bankman-Fried. He just wasn't prepared to make a billion-dollar rescue deal without taking several days to make a decision.

Get the full details on my conversation with OKX's Lennix Lai here.

Thoughts or feedback? Let me know on Twitter (@philrosenn) or email me (prosen@insider.com).

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Curated by Phil Rosen in New York. Feedback or tips? Tweet @philrosenn or email prosen@insider.com

Edited by Jason Ma in Los Angeles and Hallam Bullock (@hallam_bullock) in London.

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