Rhea Perlman reflects on still being married to Danny DeVito 10 years after they separated: 'It was very difficult at first'

• Rhea Perlman, 75, appeared on Julia Louis-Dreyfus' podcast, "Wiser Than Me," in May.
• Perlman spoke about her 2012 split from fellow actor Danny DeVito, with whom she has three kids.

Rhea Perlman discussed her split from her husband, Danny DeVito, on a recent episode of Julia Louis-Dreyfus' podcast, "Wiser Than Me" — and confirmed they are still married more than a decade later.

"Danny and I, we are still married," she said in the episode, which premiered on May 31, 2023. "And we are still very good friends and we see each other a lot. And our family is still the most important thing to both of us."

The "Matilda" costars tied the knot in 1982 and separated in 2012.

"I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, it was very difficult at first," Perlman, 75, told Louis-Dreyfus. "And there were a lot of reasons that we separated, which I'm not gonna go into. It took time for us to come to this somehow pretty decent understanding and relationship with each other."

"I can imagine! That's a big shift," Louis-Dreyfus said.

Perlman, who will appear in the upcoming "Barbie" movie, revealed she now lives alone with her dog, whom she referred to as her "partner in life."

She also briefly discussed her experience coparenting with DeVito. They have three children together: Lucy DeVito, 40; Grace Fan DeVito, 38; and Jake DeVito, 35.

"Danny tried to be as involved as he could, and I always feel like I did more," she said. "But I don't know if he would say that."

"Of course, as the mother, there's no way for you not to do more," Perlman added.

When Louis-Dreyfus asked for Perlman's permission to set her up with a new partner, Perlman rejected her offer at first.

"No, don't set me up," she said.

"Unless it's someone really wonderful," she quickly added, and proceeded to describe her ideal partner as "rich and famous, gorgeous, and a lot younger than me."