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Stephanie Beatriz knows "Encanto" fans are obsessed with "We Don't Talk About Bruno," and they're not alone.
In an interview with Insider promoting the new podcast she's hosting, called "Twin Flames," the "Brooklyn Nine-Nine" star said she doesn't think anyone involved with the film could have expected the song's tremendous success. She also revealed that she personally hasn't had any luck getting Lin-Manuel Miranda's earworm out of her head.
"I've had that song stuck in my head for two years. So it's going to be around for a while I think," she said, adding that the
Insider's Callie Ahlgrim previously reported that Miranda himself has said he's "flabbergasted" and "happily surprised" by the song's popularity. "We Don't Talk About Bruno," performed by the "Encanto" cast and written solely by Miranda, peaked at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in February and remained there for five weeks. It's been on the chart for 10 weeks as of writing, currently sitting at No. 2.
Beatriz also offered some insight into why she thinks the whole world can't stop singing it. She pointed to how strong each individual piece of the song is and how amazing it sounds when everything is layered on top of each other and combined with the rhythms. "It's such a jam," she added.
The actor also praised how relatable "Encanto" is because of the way it explores family dynamics.
"I think that's why it resonates with so many people," the actor said. "Even though our families and our chosen families could all be different, that exploration feels so universal."
Beatriz's latest venture is a podcast about a decidedly more 'unsettling' relationship dynamic
Beatriz told Insider she understands what initially draws people to the "Twin Flames Universe," a still-operational online community run by Jeff and Shaleia Ayan that is the focus of the new Wondery podcast she hosts. "Twin Flames" examines how the Ayans twisted the phrase (which means something akin to "soulmates") and turned it into something "dangerous."
According to the podcast, the Ayans promise to help their students find and cultivate their "twin flame union" if students follow the instructions in their classes, which cost over $2,000 per year.
The courses encourage people to take responsibility for attracting their twin flame, which put simply, means refusing to take "no" for an answer. In some cases, as reported in Vanity Fair and recounted in the "Twin Flames" podcast, this has resulted in legal trouble for members, some of whom have been served with restraining orders.
"I think for all of us, we're doing our best as we navigate what romantic relationships are. And sometimes our best is not that great," said Beatriz.
Rather than billing itself as a self-help program that teaches people healthy ways to cultivate love in life, Vanity Fair reported in 2020 that Jeff Ayan has "declared himself a cult leader."
The podcast offers a deep dive into what people actually sign up for when they join The Twin Flames Universe, which Beatriz called "almost like a runaway train."
"So many people who became involved with the Twin Flames Universe, it really became their whole world," said Beatriz, suggesting that it could have felt "dangerous" for many people to leave.
Jeff and Shaleia Ayan have not immediately responded to Insider's request for comment via Instagram DM.
The first four episodes of "Twin Flames" are now available to stream for free on Wondery.