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A new quote from Steve Jobs reveals what the late Apple cofounder really thought of Tim Cook: 'Tim's not a product guy'

Ben Gilbert   

A new quote from Steve Jobs reveals what the late Apple cofounder really thought of Tim Cook: 'Tim's not a product guy'
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Apple CEO Tim Cook with cofounder and former CEO Steve Jobs.

The late Apple cofounder Steve Jobs reportedly had a stinging critique of his replacement, current Apple CEO Tim Cook: "Tim's not a product guy," Jobs said.

The new quote was revealed by Steve Jobs' biographer, Walter Isaacson, during an interview on Monday with CNBC. Jobs told Isaacson as much during one of their interviews before Jobs died in 2011. 

Isaacson was speaking to the news that Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive is leaving Apple, and what that could mean for the company going forward.

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Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive and Apple CEO Tim Cook.

"Every day when Jobs was in the office in Cupertino near the end, he would go at mid-day to that big locked door that went to the design studio, be brought in - everybody else would be ushered out - and he'd walk table to table with Jony [Ive]," Isaacson said. "They'd feel not just the phone, but the plug, the jack, the way the wire coiled - everything else. And Jobs at his core was a product person who loved Jony Ive."

By comparison, current Apple CEO Tim Cook is an operations expert. His previous role at the company was as its COO, and he's most well-known within the company for logistics rather than products.

"I think what you're seeing now is a company that knows how to execute pretty well, but it doesn't have at its core these two spiritual soul mates who just lived and breathed the beauty of products," Isaacson said.

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In contrast, Steve Jobs and Jony Ive collaborated on designing some of Apple's most iconic products: the iPod, iPad, iPhone, and - most recently - the new Apple campus.

Isaacson said he left the quote out of his biography because he would occasionally "soften things" he perceived as "too harsh," but that the quote was more relevant now that Ive is departing Apple.

Apple did not immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment. 

You can watch the full interview with Isaacson below:

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