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His latest screenplay, "Steve Jobs," which is directed by Danny Boyle ("Slumdog Millionaire," "127 Hours") is based loosely on Walter Isaacson's authorized biography of Apple's co-founder. In it, Sorkin uses the iconic machines that Apple created as a backdrop for the real drama: Jobs' personal life.
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Business Insider sat down with Sorkin and Boyle before the film's premiere at the New York Film Festival to discuss why they cast an actor that looks nothing like Jobs, Boyle's reason for studying "The Social Network" before making the film, and the one question Sorkin would ask Jobs if he were still alive. Here's the lightly edited transcript.
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Boyle: Just the lineage. Because I believed instinctively when I read the script that it comes straight after "The Social Network." It's before in terms of a timeline, but it felt like it was part of a trilogy. Specifically, I was looking for individuality. Because you don't want to make a copy. I didn't want to copy Fincher's techniques, so I learned a lot from what he did.
BI: Aaron, Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs are both famous tech founders. Was it hard to not think about "The Social Network" when you were writing this? AP Photo/Paul Sakuma
Sorkin: You know, no, it wasn't hard. I felt it was a different animal. As complex a person as Mark Zuckerberg was, there was no lawsuit to write about, I was doing something else with Steve. So I don't remember it that way. Now after spending all this time with Danny, he has convinced me that the two are related and that there needs to be a third. So Elon Musk here I come. [Sorkin leans towards recorder] That's a joke, I'm not coming for him.
BI: Why did you focus on three key product launches in the film, Aaron?
BI: You've become the go-to guy when it comes to creating landmarks films that showcase how technology changes everything. Is it because you love technology, or is someone really good at talking you into writing these?
Sorkin: There's a bit of the second, because I am not a technophile by any means. I have and use the devices, but I generally have to ask for help with something. I'm not somebody who sleeps on the street for five nights when the iPhone 6 comes out.
BI: Do you think these stories grab people because you aren't coming at them with a real geek knowledge?
Sorkin: I think so. But if you line up ten writers and asked them to each write a movie about Steve Jobs, you'll get ten different and good movies. We're well on our way to proving that, by the way. And I think some of those movies, if they were written by people who were really are passionate about technology, would have perhaps focused more on the genius that went into, say, developing the iPod, for example.
BI: A popular comment that comes up about this movie is that Michael Fassbender looks nothing like Steve Jobs. Danny, was that ever a concern?
Boyle: No, we were very clear right from the get-go that this wasn't about a physical impersonation at all. It was about inhabiting, it's almost Shakespearean. He's historically accurate to a degree, but then he is our version of him and there will be other versions. It was kind of taking some facts, dispensing with many others - which would have blurred the path to investigating the man, really - and letting him move to a self-knowledge which he does gain by the end.
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Sorkin: At first I didn't know what I was looking for. I would ask them questions that I hoped would get them to tell stories. And if there was something in that story that I wanted to chase after I would.
Lisa was by far the most important person I spoke to. Lisa didn't speak to Walter Isaacson when Walter was writing the book because her father was alive at the time. But she was willing to speak to me and I was really grateful for that. And she was able to tell stories about her father that weren't necessarily flattering stories, but she would tell the story and then show me how you could see he really did love her. Hearing her talk like that really made me want to write about this father-daughter relationship.
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BI: After making this movie, how do you two see Steve Jobs the man?
Boyle: My heroes are slightly different, I have to say. I mean he's an extraordinary character to work on, but my heroes are other people - the Wikipedia guys, Tim Berners-Lee, who partly invented the World Wide Web and then put it in a trust so no other corporation could ever own it.
Because there are questions about knowledge and power that obviously Jobs would argue. This was his argument with Woz, to develop it you have to monetize it, you have to make it part of the business world. And then there are others who say it's too powerful, it's too important for everyone. In one of Jobs' past speeches he said, "Imagine if this power was in everyone's hands." It's how you get it in everyone's hands that we all ague about. He's still a mystery to me. And he should stay one, you don't solve it.
Sorkin: I agree with everything Danny said, but you ask that question and I think about what I would ask Steve if he were still alive. If he would give me an honest answer I would ask, "Why did you pretend you didn't name the computer after Lisa?" I can't fathom. Any other father, if they hadn't named it after their daughter would lie and say they did. I just can't fathom it.
"Steve Jobs" opens in theaters on Friday.